For the time being we are subject to human rule. His reply is not an observation, but the answer of faith. He believes what he cannot seethat one day all will be well for everyone who lives in the fear of God (Ryken, p. 196). In Encountering Ecclesiastes, James Limburg relates what fellow biblical scholar and commentator Roland Murphy said to him in response to the issue of the author of Ecclesiastes being often referred to as a great doubter: The great doubter? therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do The king stands as the authority. yet surely I know that it shall be well with them that fear God, which fear before him ( Ecclesiastes 8:12 ): Now, in the end the best life is the life of fearing God, walking with God. ( Ecclesiastes 8:1-4 ). Wisdom helps people see the underlying meaning of things and teaches them that to act with pleasantness is better than to act with harshness (8:1). 1. (Needing to give such instruction without any self-serving appearance could be part of why Solomon referred to himself as the Preacher throughout the book rather than as king.). it pleases God; though it is but short, rather to be counted by DEATH OF THE WICKED. [9] Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection to the Father of spirits, and live? drink, and to be merry; [23] All this have I proved by wisdom: I said, I will be wise; but it was far from me. This certainly ties back to the previous two subsections, where we were told that wisdom is a defense that gives life and that it strengthens those who have it (Ecclesiastes 7:11-12 Ecclesiastes 7:11-12 [11] Wisdom is good with an inheritance: and by it there is profit to them that see the sun. Solomon in verse 2 says to keep the kings command, not My commandhe being the king. Verse 11 explains why evil grows worse and worsebecause justice is not swift. If the spirit of the ruler rise up against you, leave not your place; for yielding pacifies great offenses. No man has any power over the spirit. Ecclesiastes 2:24 ) ( Ecclesiastes 8:8. God has given him; this is what had been observed before, ( One aspect of God's nature is His tremendous patience with rebelling man. "It doesn't really matter to God how I live. This he speaks, either, There is a vanity which is done upon the earth; that there be just men, unto whom it happens according to the work of the wicked; again, there be wicked men, to whom it happens according to the work of the righteous: so I said that this also is vanity ( Ecclesiastes 8:13-14 ). 8 Who is as the wise man? I know that, whatever God does, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God does it, that men should fear before him. THERE IS A VANITY WHICH IS DONE UPON THE EARTH.] The change of face here also reflects a new face on the problems previously discussed. 3. But it is tragic when people misinterpret God's patience and God's kindness. 1. Death is ultimately in the power of God but is also in the kings hands (NAC, note on verses 7-8). Cool, courteous, self-possessed, they bear good news or bad, prosperous or adverse fortune, with a proud equanimity. What happens to one happens to the other. Ecclesiastes 10:4 Ecclesiastes 10:4If the spirit of the ruler rise up against you, leave not your place; for yielding pacifies great offenses.American King James Version) and against persistence in any disloyalty (Eaton, Tyndale Old Testament Commentaries, note on Ecclesiastes 8:2-3 Ecclesiastes 8:2-3 [2] I counsel you to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God. Whoso keeps the commandment shall feel no evil thing: and a wise man's heart discerns both time and judgment. He is instead, in great mercy, giving everyone more time to repentand He is letting us see how far we will drift without His intervention. of his life, He would have us not to fret and perplex ourselves about it, or make ourselves uneasy, but cheerfully to enjoy what God has given us in the world, to be content with it and make the best of it, though it be much better with others, and such as we think very unworthy (Ecclesiastes 8:15; Ecclesiastes 8:15): Then I commended joy, a holy security and serenity of mind, arising from a confidence in God, and his power, providence, and promise, because a man has no better thing under the sun (though a good man has much better things above the sun) than to eat and drink, that is, soberly and thankfully to make use of the things of this life according as his rank is, and to be cheerful, whatever happens, for that shall abide with him of his labour. God's ways are above ours, nor is he tied to his own former ways, but his judgments are a great deep. the preacher sets forth certain deductions. God will judge. Solomon next mentions seeing the wicked buried (verse 10). A man's wisdom maketh his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed. Ecclesiastes/Song of Solomon - Leaders Guide. That improves our situation in life and keeps us from ways that would make things worse for ourselves. No! In order to keep with what He said, "No man takes My life," when He was hanging there on the cross after He cried, "It is finished" ( John 19:30 ), "Father, into Thy hands I commend My Spirit" ( Luke 23:46 ), He bowed His head, and it said, "And He dismissed His Spirit." The wicked will not ultimately be prolonged, yet the righteous will. It doesn't matter to God that I'm living an immoral life, because look at all that I have." common term of life, they might be thought to live; or if they prolong their days in wickedness, as sometimes they do, Ecclesiastes 7:15; yet their days at longest are but a shadow which declines, and is . It is good that you should take hold of this; yes, also from this withdraw not your hand: for he that fears God shall come forth of them all. sun, than (n) to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall CHARACTERS: God, Solomon. 3:22 ) ( 5:18 ) ; 5: oritur sol et occidit et ad locum suum revertitur ibique renascens. counsels obedience to the powers that be_,_ and submission to the Things just continue as they were from the beginning.'" Yes, we have a lot of hard work to do. Ecclesiastes 8:15 - Summarized Bible Commentary CONTENTS: Wisdom recommended as an antidote against the temptations and vexations arising from the vanity of the world. Ecclesiastes 8:15 in all English translations. I counsel thee to keep the king's commandment, and that in regard of the oath of God. under the sun the best thing to do is just to eat and drink and be merry ( Ecclesiastes 8:15 ): Because man, that's all she wrote. There is no man that has power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither has he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it. But this wording requires a text emendation. No man hath power over the spirit That is, over the soul of man; to retain the spirit To keep it in the body beyond the time which God hath allotted to it. Ecclesiastes 2:14; The Preaching the Word commentary notes: Usually the Preacher tells us what he saw, but this time he chooses a different verb and tells us something that he knows. This is not something that he has seen from a distance, but something he has grasped with the rational conviction of his own mind. We'll send you an email with steps on how to reset your password. their present condition and circumstances, and be cheerful and CONCLUSION: Heavenly wisdom makes a man a good man, Ecclesiastes 8:1. God is exceedingly long-suffering. The Targum interprets it of the joy of the law; because a man hath no better thing under the sun than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry; of earthly things there is nothing better than for a man freely and cheerfully, with moderation and thankfulness, to enjoy what God has given him; this is what had been observed before, Ecclesiastes 2:24; and is not the language of an epicure, or a carnal man, who observing that no difference is made between the righteous and the wicked, that it is as well or better with the wicked than the righteous, determines to give up himself to sensual lusts and pleasures; but it is the good and wholesome advice of the wise man, for men to be easy under every providence, satisfied with their present condition and circumstances, and be cheerful and pleasant, and not distress themselves about things they cannot alter; for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life. American King James Versiona). A man's wisdom makes his face shine, And the sternness of his face is changed. There is a serenity that comes with things starting to make senseand with trusting that God knows whatHes doing when things still dont. [10] For they truly for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. Then I commended mirth You can't escape it. shall be changed. In the midst of a miscarriage, a failed friendship, or job loss, the preacher would remind us that 'there is a time for. So you don't really know what's going to be, when it's going to be. Some think Solomon speaks of himself, that he was so eager in prosecuting this great enquiry that he could not sleep for thinking of it. And behold joy and gladness, slaying oxen, and killing sheep, eating flesh, and drinking wine: let us eat and drink; for to morrow we shall die. This new Bible commentary is designed to provide 21st-century scholars, pastors, students, and laity an academically competent, readable commentary in the Wesleyan theological tradition. the WICKED appear to escape judgment and receive blessings. 3 Be not hasty to go out of his sight. eat, and to His survey now digresses to consider a wise man's responsibility when Koheleth seems to have had a suspicion all the time that his view of life was a low one. The question in Ecclesiastes isn't about the existence of God; the author is no atheist, and God is always there. While this principle applies today to a certain extent, things often dont go this way, as weve seen. ECCLESIASTES 8:1 He, for his part, had applied his heart to know this wisdom, and to see the business that is done, by the divine Providence, upon the earth, to find out if there were any certain scheme, any constant rule or method, by which the affairs of this lower world were administered, any course of government as sure and steady as the course of nature, so that by what is done now we might as certainly foretel what will be done next as by the moon's changing now we can foretel when it will be at the full; this he would fain have found out. The message here is: Do your best to stay out of trouble! which God giveth him under the sun; A Practical Verse-by-Verse Study of ECCLESIASTES - It is Don's interpretation that the book of Ecclesiastes describes Solomon's futile way of living as he heads down that slippery spiral of wine, women and song. We must arm ourselves against the temptation of an oppressive government and not think it strange (v. 9, 10). Honor the king. . the wicked, that it is as well or better with the wicked than the Viewed by itself, and apart from its conte ECCLESIASTESNOTE ON ECCLESIASTES 8:14 It is a puzzling VANITY that lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content. i. He had earlier said unto them, "No man takes My life from Me, I give My life" ( John 10:18 ). Or it could be that all the men of Israel took an oath as part of the nations military. So, "Though a sinner do evil a hundred times, and his days be prolonged,". Others had likewise set themselves to make this enquiry with so close an application that they could not find time for sleep, either day or night, nor find in their hearts to sleep, so full of anxiety were they about these things. There is no man that has power over his spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it ( Ecclesiastes 8:8 ). let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die. Who knows anything? We_ have here an image which will not disgrace Then, besides the perspective we need to have and the righteous life we are to persist in, we are again given the prescription of the books refrain in the third major sections conclusionthe enjoyment of life that God blesses us with: to eat, drink, and be merry (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version). Thinks that he has been clever and has hid his sin from God, or worse yet, thinks that God is condoning what he has done. The highest wisdom is Nevertheless, there is joy for us in the ordinary things of lifeeating, drinking, and sharing fellowship with the people of God (p. 198). Then I commended merriment, because a man hath no better thing ( Ecclesiastes 8:15 ), And this is his human philosophy and human reasoning coming out again. He would not have us to be surprised at it, as though some strange thing happened, for he himself saw it in his days, Ecclesiastes 8:14; Ecclesiastes 8:14. serving the king, followed by a number Ecclesiastes 7:19-8 As has been pointed out before, some take a low view of the refrain. Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. Notice as well that he mentions joy twice in this verse and describes it as something we can experience all through life. Where the word of the king is, there is power: and who may say unto him, What are you doing? for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun ( Ecclesiastes 8:15 ). Ecclesiastes 8:10 i _Then I commended mirth_ As before in chs. his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and the righteous often suffer, and the wicked prosper. a man's wisdom makes his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed. Add to Wish List Add to Compare. sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide Nay, [3.] The preacher begins this chapter with the praise of wisdom, from its excellency and usefulness, Ecclesiastes 8:1; and advises men, if they would live quietly and comfortably, to honour and obey the king that rules over them, and not be rebellious against him, since he has great power and authority . That's the sum of life for you, so you might as well live it up because you're going to be burning after a while. [Compare 1 Corinthians 15:32 1 Corinthians 15:32If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantages it me, if the dead rise not? What else had he seen? ASV God does care. We must keep in due subjection to the government God has set over us ( v. 2-5 ). he asks. We don't have that power. In the person of a sensual man. And He died. But he also knows that often the opposite is true (14). The point seems to be that if the king puts you to death for rebellion or crime, life is over. THE PROBLEM OF THE Then I commended mirth These are some more of the cavils of the infidel objector: "Since virtue is frequently under oppression, and vice triumphs in health, and rolls in wealth, I see plainly that we should not trouble ourselves about future things; and therefore should be governed by the maxim EDE, BIBE, LUDE. That you might fear the LORD your God, to keep all his statutes and his commandments, which I command you, you, and your son, and your son's son, all the days of your life; and that your days may be prolonged. God does know. There is no use in repining or rebelling; _true wisdom The Targum interprets it of the joy of the law; God's purpose must be Item #: 203674. . All rights reserved. Add To Cart. [12] For wisdom is a defense, and money is a defense: but the excellency of knowledge is, that wisdom gives life to them that have it. drinking, and all manner of carnal deli Ecclesiastes 8:15 commended H7623 (H8765) enjoyment H8057 man H120 To live a God-fearing life is to live in constant awareness of the presence of God, who is even closer than a prayer away (pp. Here he shows, 1. and because they had not so much of them: as others; who yet had He would have us to take occasion hence, not to charge God with iniquity, but to charge the world with vanity. Though a sinner do evil an hundred times, and his days be prolonged ( Ecclesiastes 8:12 ), Remember he was talking about how he saw that the ungodly man was living a long life, the righteous were dying young and the ungodly were living long. He hasn't come and He's not going to come. 15 Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labour the days of his life, which God giveth him under the sun. neither shall he prolong his days, which are as a shadow; because he fears not before God. 2. Some translate the word ruach here as breath (of life) rather than spirit, but that would not change the point here. In this division, dealing with the evidences of the vanity of life, He said, "Okay, you can go now." interpretation of a thing?_ In the Vulgate these two questions end the (8 studies) Ecclesiastes Study Guide Ecclesiastes Chart Scans (studies 1-8) Click to for the Mp3's corresponding to each study sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide Fear of the Lord is to depart from evil. 2:24; Ecclesiastes 3:12; Ecclesiastes 3:22; Ecclesiastes 5:17). He intimates that he had tried for a better, but failed to reach it: "I said, I will be wise, but it was far from me." Ecclesiastes 7:19-8. The first part of Ecclesiastes 8:3 Ecclesiastes 8:3Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he does whatever pleases him.American King James Versiontells us not to be quick to leave the ruler. Abject in his fear before Moses, he was ready to promise anything; insolent in his pride, he swallows down his promises as soon as fear is eased, his repentance and his retractation of it combined to add new weights about his neck. and who knows the interpretation of a thing? The NIV renders the phrase in verses 5 and 6 as proper time and procedure. The New American Commentary notes: The wise man thus waits for the proper moment to make his case or take a stand and does not waste his influence on a lost cause (v. 3b). ECCLESIASTES 8:14. We must get ready for sudden evils, and especially for sudden death ( v. 6-8 ). If one does not know what will happen, how can he learn when it will happen? . The statement There is no release from that [or the] war could refer figuratively to the march into death that all face or simply be metaphoric for Theres no getting out of this. Then the final line, and wickedness will not deliver those who are given to it, would tie back to the turn to wrongdoing in verse 3. Keeping this in mind results in a deep and abiding reverence for Godloving and trusting Him while recognizing His supreme power and holiness (see Hebrews 12:28-29 Hebrews 12:28-29 [28] Why we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear: in whatsoever state condition men are; serenity and tranquillity of No power in death. He would not have us try to give a reason for what God does. Ecclesiastes 8:13. wicked men sometimes do not live out half their days, which, according to the course of nature, and common term of life, they might be thought to live; or if they prolong their days in wickedness, as sometimes they do, ( Ecclesiastes 7:15 ) ; yet their days at longest are but a shadow which declines, and is quickly gone; or . Help for Today, Hope for Tomorrow| Learn more With a UCG.org account you will be able to save items to read and study later! It doesn't matter to God that I lie or I steal or whatever because look, I'm blessed. Verse 15. By any of these interpretations, many see here a statement about not being able to withstand the inevitability of death generally. Solomon commended joy, and holy security of mind, arising from confidence in God, because a man has no better thing under the sun, though a good man has much better things above the sun, than soberly and thankfully to use the things of this life according to his rank. mind, thankfulness for what they have, and a free and comfortab Then I commended mirth, because a man hath no better thing under the Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he doeth whatsoever pleaseth him. Blue Letter Bible study tools make reading, searching and studying the Bible easy and rewarding. Sermon Bible Commentary Ecclesiastes 8:1-15. All things have I seen in the days of my vanity: there is a just man that perishes in his righteousness, and there is a wicked man that prolongs his life in his wickedness. potentates, who do commonly advance unworthy men, and oppress persons THE BENEFITS OF WHOLESOME RECREATION It seems that this lack of punishment encourages people to sin (11-12a). and who knows the interpretation of a thing? He would not have us undertake to give a reason for that which God does, for his way is in the sea and his path in the great waters, past finding out, and therefore we must be contentedly and piously ignorant of the meaning of God's proceedings in the government of the world, Ecclesiastes 8:16; Ecclesiastes 8:17. That shall abide with him during the days of his life which God gives him under the sun. God's not willing that any should perish but that all should come into repentance. of earthly things there is nothing better than for a man freely And the same is true of God. What does Ecclesiastes 8:15 mean? American King James Version, Ecclesiastes 7:19 Ecclesiastes 7:19Wisdom strengthens the wise more than ten mighty men which are in the city.American King James Version). And He is patient and merciful towards us as we struggle to walk in His ways, even despite our many and ongoing failures. But He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" ( 2 Peter 3:9 ). The only one who really did exercise that kind of power over his spirit was Jesus Christ. him from his labour. You can't really come to the king and say, "Hey, what are you doing?" a man's wisdom makes his face to shine, and the boldness of his face shall be changed.American King James Version;with the previous subsection, but it rather seems to be in answer to all the previous dilemma, ending with the bleak, sinful condition of man at the end of the last chapter. 6 Who makes this observation? And one ruling another to that ones own hurt here is evidently a mistranslation. Solomon's pencil. Moreover, rarely has human government been righteous. I counsel thee to keep the king's commandmen 1 Timothy 4:3; 1 Timothy 4:4; 1 Timothy 6:17; Ecclesiastes 2:24; I commend joy, he says (Ecclesiastes 8:15 Ecclesiastes 8:15Then I commended mirth, because a man has no better thing under the sun, than to eat, and to drink, and to be merry: for that shall abide with him of his labor the days of his life, which God gives him under the sun.American King James Version), and the word he uses for commend is a Hebrew word for praise (shabach). You see, the real delay in the return of Jesus Christ is just God's unwillingness that men should perish. To go from someones presence elsewhere signifies disaffection or disloyalty . Send inquiries regarding the operation of this Web site to webmaster@ucg.org. The scope of these verses is to keep subjects loyal and dutiful to the government. Thinks he has put one over on God. They begin to scoff at it, even as Peter said they would. Koheleth seems to have had a suspicion all the time that his view of submission to things as they are. Recall that chapter 5 was the first instance of direct exhortations in the booktelling us to be careful in our approach in coming to worship God, the One in whose hands our lives are and who can help us through the present difficulties. [3] Be not hasty to go out of his sight: stand not in an evil thing; for he does whatever pleases him. We must arm ourselves against the temptation of an oppressive government and not think it strange ( v. 9, 10 ). is simply that the wicked were able to die and receive a proper burial after a long life without having to face up to what they'd doneall the while having been permitted in life to be regularly in God's temple, a sacrilege and mockery of religion. So I know that in the long run that life is the best. ( Ecclesiastes 8:5-7 ). Section 5. He saw just men to whom it happened according to the work of the wicked, who, notwithstanding their righteousness, suffered very hard things, and continued long to do so, as if they were to be punished for some great wickedness. Our present life is a life under the sun, but we look for the life of the world to come, which will commence and continue when the sun shall be turned into darkness and shine no more. (9 sessions) This study is part of the LifeLight Bible study series of in-depth studies of Bible books. which God giveth him under the sun; man's present life is under the sun, and is continued as long as it pleases God; though it is but short, rather to be counted by days than years, and is a laborious one; and all that he gets by his labour, enjoyed by him, is to eat and drink cheerfully; and this he may expect to have and continue with him as long as he lives, even food and raiment, and with this he should be content. Nor does it mean that the person will be afforded protection by the government, though he or she well may, as all do to some extent. That is all the fruit he has for himself of the pains that he takes in the business of the world; let him therefore take it, and much good may it do him; and let him not deny himself that, out of a peevish discontent because the world does not go as he would have it. Furthermore, the verses in chapter 8 do not seem to speak of human government rectifying problems so much as of us taking care to not run afoul of government (we will see similar verses in this regard in chapter 10). All this have I seen, and applied my heart to every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man rules over another to his own hurt. He had power over His Spirit to dismiss it. Its just a matter of timeand probably much less time than most imagine. American King James Version; and read all of this psalm). All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man rules over another to his own hurt. COMMEND PLEASURE, FOR THERE IS NOTHING GOOD FOR. Ecclesiastes 8:15 NIV - So I commend the enjoyment of life, - Bible Gateway Read the Bible Reading Plans Advanced Search Available Versions Audio Bibles Study Tools Scripture Engagement More Resources Explore More Newsletters Devotionals Bible Gateway App Bible Audio App Bible Gateway Blog Bible Gateway Plus Store Bibles Deals More Passage And who knoweth the interpretation of a thing? When the Pharaoh of the Exodus saw there was respite, he hardened his heart. A righteous man has prospered; an unrighteous man has prospered. experience of a THEN I COMMENDED MIRTH,. 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